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Senate dem's change course for mid terms

The Senate responds to the New Arizona law on immigration in an attempt to keep the latino vote. With mid term elections comming up soon, this is one of the issues they did not want to tackle. With Arizona and now Texas as the hot beds of immigrations, they are forced to introduce a sweeping reform bill to help them keep the traditional latino vote.

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jonmguse@uwm.edu said...

I think most of these changes will help address the problem. The biggest problem in fixing immigration is the border. The only issue I have with this is the crackdown on employers which seems to be a constant issue with regard to illegal immigrants. I think that it is difficult at best to crack down on employers because the system in place in border states to create fake ids' is very massive and the fake ids that are created can look very real. I also think the people who come here to work are not really the problem. I think a guest worker program is unlikely to be used frequently because once an immigrant defines himself as illegal and is one the radar that person is easier to track. The laws to come here and be a citizen legally are also difficult. The easiest path is to sneak across the border,create a fake id and then blend in. As long as that is the easiest path that is what people will do. The only real solution is a more secure border.

Jeremy said...

The National ID card that is in the immigration reform framework is linked biometrically to the person it belongs to and cannot be faked.

I really don't understand the opposition to this reform. A majority of it is Bush's plan. So far it hasn't codified the exact language, instead it is a basic framework adressing the generally accepted problems. Ie crackdown on employers who hire illigals, securing the border, guest worker and VISA program, give all workers an ID card biometrically linked to them, some sort of path for citizenship, ect.

jonmguse@uwm.edu said...

How many times are the Democrats going to say things are "broken" before people just tune them out? With that said immigration laws are broken and need to be fixed, I just think that they are overusing the word broken.
I think that this creates some problems however. What happens to a Hispanic United States citizen walks in to a job interview with just a standard drivers license? How hard is the employer going to press the issue of the legitimacy of that card at a fear of being called a racist. Driver's Licenses can be forged well enough to seem real. Legal Hispanic citizens will not have this card so therefore illegal Hispanics could still use a standard drivers license to get a job claiming they are legal. The employer might not know the difference or want to know the difference.
If that employer is ever question by immigration officials he can claim that the individual presented a drivers license. Is the employer going to ask every Hispanic who walk through the door for his guest worker card? I cannot imagine that would go over well. Many of the illegals are also willing to work for less money than most U.S citizens are so some employers will still take the risk.
I would like to know how easy it will be for illegals to become citizens because while it helps to solve the problem of people entering illegally, it creates a scenario where too many people will seek legal status and that could also be a problem. The problem now is that seeking U.S citizen status is very difficult and most just enter illegally.

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jonmguse@uwm.edu said...

Ron that seems harsh, however I agree that punishment for human trafficking along the border should be more severe. I think that that problem of illegal immigration will still continue even with a harder punishment for those who try it. The benefits of have a child in the U.S include the fact that he or she will be a U.S citizen. The family will have good access to emergency medical care and the children will have access to our educational system.
These benefits alone will be enough to attempt a border crossing. The state of California with prop 187 in 1994 learned the hard way that trying to remove some of these benefits are politically costly.The issue of people who hire illegal immigrants is a sticky one at best. My post for this week will discuss the fact that the Milwaukee Police department hired a man who turned out to be an illegal immigrant who stole his cousins identity when he died. Should the police captain in Milwaukee be put in a labor camp? I think that punishing employers will only create a fear of hiring Hispanics in general. That is not a good thing. I understand there are massive operations that hire illegals such as farms in the border states. It would be nice to separate those people from the local business that hires an illegal because he has a fake drivers license.

Jeremy said...

I get the feeling people are blowing a lot of hot air.

Under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, all these neat ideas about treating Hispanics differently like hard labor, and racial profiling will be struck down as unconstitutional.

The Amendment proposed by Rep. Guitierrez will reform the entire social security system so that the social security card will incorporate the same biometric information that will be on the National ID card for immigrants. This will remove the hazzard of false discrimination and render the Driver Liscense scenario a moot point.
My understanding is there will be a national clearing house to ensure that the card matches the holder. Also, as it stands, the fingerprinting will be used against the FBI database before the card is issued to prevent criminals from becoming legal.

jonmguse@uwm.edu said...

I have read an article in time magazine which details the positives and negatives of such a plan and I am not sold. The problems pointed out be critics include an error rate of 1 percent which is about 1.5 million people. Most people cannot accurately read fingerprints so a machine will be necessary and therefore expensive to some business. Some people will wrongfully be denied work as well because of the error rate.
The ACLU is already opposed to this and you just know some of the wacky people who think Obama is the antichrist will now be convinced that he is. One of the prophecies is the mark of the beast which is something that will be needed to operate in the economy. Finally " Cherry half-jokes that someone could falsify such an ID in 15 minutes, and Khosla says that while current technology makes fingerprints the most feasible biometric marker to use, they're also one of the easiest to steal." The article which discusses the plan is listed at the bottom. I personally think if It could work It would be a great idea, it's just that this is such a massive plan and many problems are likely to occur.


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1974927,00.html#ixzz0mxrb1C7t

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Jeremy said...

Let me get this straight... By your own admission it is going to expensive. Do you really think that illegal immigrants trying to escape poverty are going to be able to afford an ID card with stolen fingerprints?

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jonmguse@uwm.edu said...

I think that it will be expensive for some businesses to purchase these machines... I also think that more research needs to be done about the effects of this plan. The TIME article cites that the probability of an error is 1 percent. that would affect 1.5 million people.
How do those people rectify being turned down for a job if they are misidentified? This is a problem with the system. Michael Cherry who is the president of a biometrics security company thinks that making one of these cards is not all that hard. I do not think that most immigrants alone could afford one of these cards you are right about that. I think that drug rings could produce them in exchange for favors such as being a drug mule could occur. I do not know the in's an outs of the whole human trafficking -drug business personally as I am not involved with it. I think you are right that this will make falsifying an id harder than just a drivers license. I also think that the individuals who produce fake drivers licenses on the black market might begin to try fraudulently produces these. The TIME article linked on my blog details the pros and cons of this very well.

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